Starting a business on the side whilst still working for an emloyee!

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nick
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Hello again, it's been about a year now, been working really hard for someone else so that they can buy themselves a Porche etc, etc!! :-(

So, a quick overview, and then some welcomed advice.
I have the opportunity to start my own clothing website, a family member has a shop, warehouse and supplier accounts all set up. I have spend 2 years researching the market, and now written a plan to start this business.

I am thinking of starting this business on the side whilst still working for my employee. It is not the same industry, and my employee will know nothing about it.

I am worried about legal and tax implications of doing this, can anyone shed any light??

NickB

visualinteractive
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Working for an Employee whilst setting up a business

Hi Nick,

Im in the same situation, and i would say there are many others out there. For me, its pure financial security at the moment as my full-time job pays the mortgage and bills ! I invented a new innovative wirless product last year and since then all of my own money has been spent on pure development to prove the concept. To be honest, i was also worried about what i would legally need to tell me company, so instead i setup a Ltd company and used my mum as a Director and one of my colleagues father-in-law as the Secretary., That way i'm not linked via Companies House. When the time comes, the Secretary wll resign and i will take the place, and my other colleagues will become directors.

As the company is not bringing in any form of income, the Secretay and Directors are not paid, so hopfully it should be just a matter of filing dormant accounts and the usual Annual Return..

My understanding is that you are not under any legal obligation to tell your employee about any other interests (unless is poses conflict of interest ?) - someone maybe able to clarify this matter ... My potential issue is that my current ful time job is home office based which involves being out 3 or so days a week, and a few days on the road. The company could question what i'm doing during my 'woking from home' time ! In terms of the what my idea is, there is no conflict with my current employee.

Good Luck for the future !

Pete

Pete Bailey
Visual Interactive Ltd
M:07734 846261

nick
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Thanks Pete, I thought as

Thanks Pete,

I thought as much, I am in pretty much in the same situation all round as you. I did think of getting investment to give up work and start the business full time, but haveing a family etc is to risky. I know setting up a business is all about talking the risks, but if i'm not paying any bills in 6 months time, is becomes a big issue!!
The good thing is that the business is web based, so I am able to run it along side my job, and workig from home anables this, just have to keep a balance at first.

Thanks for you advise.

NickB

MartinB
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Employee Salary and business salary

Guys

I believe lots of people carry on working while starting there own business, I know I am. A friend of mine has also done this and she is an accountant and a useful tip she gave me was avoid two wages (i.e your employee wage and take money out of the business as a wage), it is far more tax efficient to let your business pay you a dividend only which is taxed at 20% rather than income tax and NI. if your business takes off, you could find yourself in the 40% income tax bracket before you know it and that could be expensive. My advice is talk to your local inland revenue office, I found them really helpful and were really good at providing advice on how not to pay to much tax and generally there advice is free

thanks

Martin

nickr
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Similar Situation! Need some advise!

I'm in a similar situation at the moment. I have a new business idea, and I could get this off the ground within the next couple of months.
It fits nicely alongside my present employment, in that I offer a complementary product (i.e. not competing), however, it's obviously difficult to operate a business while 'at work'!
I work shifts at the moment, which gives me lots of day-off time to work on the idea, and run the business. However, a lot of my business will be based on phone calls- this raises the issue of how on earth to deal with this while working for my present employer.

I also have a job interview this week, which is for a 9-5 position. The job will be much better than the one i'm in now, but I'll lose the day-off time down to just weekends. It will also be more difficult to take calls, etc.

I'm disappointed because I have been onto a really nice little start-up idea, and now I see this as the biggest hurdle in my way.
Does anyone else have any experience in jumping these?!

Nick

RajeshMalhotra
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Joined: 18/01/2006
RE:My Own Training and Management Consultancy Business

Hi Nick,
I feel this is a common problem and needs to be addressed in more detail!!!
Do you quit your job and go Fulltime? or do you wait until your business income overtakes your job income? only you can fully anwer that question?
I have just been told that I am going to need at least £20k more like £40k (of which I do not currently have!!) To cover my premises,computers,rates.staff etc and that I should work fulltime and start my business part time by a very successful entrepreneur!!!
I want to start my own Training College or School within a niche area.
However I have also just secured a 3- 6 month contract (ie 9-5pm). As I am a freelance payroll consultant
So I am going to start doing the classes on the weekends (maybe 2 saturdays a month) to see if there is a demand!!! I am also currently studying a course that will give me more credibility
what you might want to do is?
1.write out a weekly schedule on where you time is spent?(maybe you can release at least 10-20 hours to invest in your own business)
2. Have you got an answering machine that you can take messages?
3. You could also divert the calls to your mobile from your landline?
4.You also need to look at the long-term as the future has a tendency for coming around quiet quickly!!!
5.Can you put it online or promote by other means?
6. Have you writtten a business plan?
If you really feel this is THE BUSINESS TO BE IN then go for it?
Don't give up!!!
Rajesh Malhotra
RMalhotra Consultants

Rajesh Malhotra
R.M.Consultants/Project Creations

coconuts
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Out-source your call answering

Rather than use an answer machine, where people are reluctant to leave a message, or a mobile, where the caller is likely to get background noise and expensive calls. Use a telephone answering service - this is likely to cost from £35 a month, which is nothing in comparison with lost business.

I use a local company - and its like having your own PA, and has the added advantage of promoting a professional front to your clients.

Coconuts

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