New Plumbing Business

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dripbusters-ltd
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Hi all, I am in the process of starting up a new plumbing business and I guess my main market research question is as follows. Any and all responses appreciated.

When 4 or 5 workmen come out to quote you for a plumbing job, what factors help you decide on who to choose?

I have my ideas but i welcome any others.

Thanks for your time,

Keiran Ashcroft
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Hi Keiran,

It's good to see another trade on here at last!!

I've got some pointers for you and it's what I do and I think they work well since I have a conversion rate of around 57% which is good because I believe the average for trades is lower at around a third!

These may be obvious but a lot of people miss them:
*Turn up on time.

*Be polite, friendly & professional.

*Try to make them laugh

*Dress well and I don't mean shirt and tie, company t-shirt and no ripped or greasy jeans, will do if you haven't got company t-shirts printed up yet go out and buy 5 or 6 plain polo shirts in your planned company colours and wear those to every job as it keeps continuity.

*If you smoke, give up it's bad for you and i wouldn't want a trades person (PC) coming into my house smelling of smoke.

*Get decent business cards made up and letter head to send out estimates on.

*Follow up on estimates about four days after you've sent them, to make sure they got it for one, and that they understand it all.

*Break your estimates down at least into labour and materials, people sometimes ask for it so it'll save you doing it later. put on it how long it will take I phrase it: The work should take approximately * Days

* If you're not going to be doing and making good or redecoration (I don't because I'm not a plasterer or decorator) state that.

*Write down a schedule of works: EVERYTHING you will be doing, It takes a bit of time but it will save problems later

* Get TrustMark Approved

*I also joined the UK Consumer Protection Agency as it shows your not a rouge and I get work from it too!
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**IMPORTANT** Don't undercharge, people won't go for the lowest estimate.

If you want to talk about anything else you can call me on the number below, Hey it's a Free Phone number so I'll even pay for the call

Paul

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Paul, thanks for all your suggestions. To get to know our competition better we invited 5 of them round to quote and it's amazing how many of them stank of smoke or turned up looking like a mess!

Also, I was amazed at how many had no formal qualifications, really worried me and made me realise there is a real opportunity here!

Don't want to run up your 0800 number but I noticed from your website that your based in London and wondered if you had any idea what the demand for plumbers and tradesmen in general is like in London just now.

Regards,

Keiran.

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Hi Keiran,
That's great you were able to get some round to do quotes, have you received them yet? Do they look professional, You are already one up on them since how many do you think do any sort of research? and you're using this site.

As for the demand i think it's very high, well I'm booked up until April so far!!

Very good of you not wanting to put the bill on the 0800 number, If you do want to have a chat I can tell you what has worked for me and what hasn't and probably save you money and get your business off the ground a lot faster. the land line number is 01992 700 825.

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hi all ive just left the

hi all ive just left the army and in the process of starting up my own plumbing business,and i would like some usefull tips and information on how best to market myself so that i can get alot of work in to keep myself busy for myself and my family and to give myself a new a good fresh start in civvy street.all tips and advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,

I left the Navy recently and started exactly what you are doing. There's 2 sides to this, plumbing and business and whilst they're linked, they're also separate.

Plumbing

If you haven't got a lot of previous experience, start on small jobs - I can't emphasis this one enough. Learn to get really good at changing taps and fixing leaks before moving on. You want all of your customers to think you're great basically so don't run before you can walk. Sorry if I'm talking to someone whose been plumbing for years!

Business

Promote yourself! Eventually you should see word of mouth kicking in, but this took me 4 months. Initially, look to your local tradesman magazines to advertise in. Does your partner/family have a adverts page on their work intranet? If so, get them to advertise you on there. Offer a 10% discount to these companies to get the work coming in.

If you haven't already, invest some time and money in Sage Accounts, Sage Payroll and Sage ACT for your PC. These packages are worth their weight in gold once you can use them. You'll instantly know the state of your business finances at any time. ACT lets you keep all of your customers email addresses so you can send out monthly offers etc. This gets me quite a lot of business.

Get a good website. Either get a friend who is GOOD at making them to do it or give me a shout (a plug I know). Have a look at my website at www.dripbusters.co.uk . It even has an online shop (I'll add a few more products when I get time). If you type Fareham Plumber into google I come out high on the first page. I'm top for Whitely Plumber. I even get paid to have a couple of text link adverts on it. The website makes me money without me having to chase leads and was the single best thing I've done for my business.

Signwrite your van - again it's cheap to do, look on Ebay - there are loads of people selling decals. Get a business logo and set yourself up as a limited company. All of these things make you look professional and encourage the customer to buy from you as opposed to the next 'Surname' Plumbing. You also then have a brand that you can expand later should you want to.

Get to know a good gas fitter, plasterer, carpenter, electrician and pass each other work.

That should do for now. Hope some of this is helpful, all things I've learned on the way. I'm no expert (only 6 months in) but I'm doing ok at the moment!

Keiran
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Hi Keiran,

I have recently been made redundant and have decided to set up my own plumbing business. I took a course in domestic plumbing a couple of years ago and have done bits and bobs for friends and family since, i.e. radiator replacements, tap replacements, outside taps, leek repairs, cistern repairs/replacements. But this is as far as my experience goes.

I am interested to know what kind of training and experience you had before you started up and how you found it initially, having seen your website and read your comments you seem very well established after 6 months.

My plan is to start with small bits which i have confidence in doing and build my experience up from there.

I am planning to do a leaflet drop in my local area, is this something you would recommend?

Any other advice welcome!

Regards,

Joe

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Sorry for the late reply!

I'm guessing you've already started up by now, but if you haven't - here's my experience of starting up: -

1. Leaflet drops are a complete waste of time. I did thousands and didn't get one call.
2. Advertising in local trade magazines works well, but you need to be in there a few months before people start calling. Don't ask me why, that's just been our experience.
3. Try to build a network of good sub-contractors, then you can make a bit of money when you pass them work too. I would say in the current climate sticking with maintenance work is the way to go.
4. A vested interest here, (because I also design websites and online shops) but my website has been the single best bit of advertising for my business. It costs me around £85 per year and I've had countless jobs from it (and sales from my online shop). Most importantly, it also ranks on the first page for 'Fareham plumber' on Google. If you need a good website, let me know and I'ld be happy to give you a price.

Hope these pointers help. Feel free to give me a call on 07854 596625 if you want to chat any ideas through.

Keiran

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Start a Plumbing Business

Houses and offices are constantly in need of some type of safeguarding, which is why there is always a profitable niche for a plumbing business. But your success in opening your own plumbing business will depend on the quality of the strategy you set up to run your business and the market you are trying to reach.

In addition, the office you set up and the people you appoint will affect the success of your business.

1. Complete legal requirements and obtain a professional plumbing license.

2. Set up your office. You may choose to start your plumbing business from home since most, if not all, of your transactions will be done over the phone.

3. Joining a plumbing organization can provide you with professional development and training through seminars and workshops.

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Hello all, May i just say

Hello all,

May i just say what a great source of info this website is.

I have spent the last couple of years doing a nvq level 2 technical certificate at college and have been doings plumbing bits and bobs here and there for a while. I have been working with my old man developing properties, i.e fitting bathrooms, kitchens, radiators etc. Through college i have experience with lead slate making front aprons back gutters, flashing etc plus installing airing cupbaords, bathrooms, kitchens, sanitation and all the others.

I have noticed since qualifying there is no work out there for anyone leaving college so i am interested in starting up by myself as this seems to be the only viable way of getting any plumbing work, it's got to better than signing on hey?

Any start up advice would be greatly appreciated guys.

Where do i need to start?

Thanks in advance.

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Hello everyone
Some great advice on here for tradesmen. I specialise in helping Tradesmen with their paperwork and administrative tasks.

Some tips on running the business side of things. . .

Accounts - As a minimum, do make sure you keep all of your receipts and printed copies of all of your customer invoices in date order. (HMRC recommended having 2 plastic baggies for receipts. (Keep 1 in the car & 1 in the house. Once a week file the receipts from the car in date order & put the empty baggy in your van.) Consider using an accountancy software, but only do this if you are willing to commit the time to log everything you spend and earn yourself. If this sounds like too much of a pain after a hard day's work, find out what your accountant charges for bookkeeping and to file your taxes. (You may find a Virtual Assistant or even a bookkeeper may charge less to log this info in Excel for you.)

Customer Database - Make sure you have a system for logging your customer's contact details. This can range from a simple Excel spreadsheet to a database like Salesforce. You want to log all of your customer's contact details in one place, so you can easily market to past customers. If you have mobile numbers, you can use one of the websites that allow you to send text messages to a list of numbers. If you have their email addresses, you can use mailchimp or another free email marketing website to send out regular offers. If you have their addresses, you can prepare a mailmerge and send direct mail with special offers or to ask for referrals.

Call Answering Services - I highly recommend that you consider using a call answering service. Divert your office and mobile number to a professional call answering service. When you divert your mobile, you can usually choose to have it only divert if you don't answer. Customers appreciate speaking to someone straight away rather than leaving a voice mail message. A call answering service also filters out distractions, so you're more productive when you're working for a customer.

Virtual Assistant - (Now for my shameless plug) A Virtual Assistant can do more than a standard call answering service. For the tradesmen I work with, I answer calls, update the customer database, update their calendar (we use Google calendar which can be accessed from a mobile phone) respond to company emails. I have designed professional quote and invoice templates. I also prepare and send customer invoices. I also help manage a to do list & give gentle reminders of tasks that need to be completed.

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Hi Folks,

Thought I would add my 2 peeny worth to this excellent thread.

I started my plumbing business 3 years ago, basically just doing evening and weekend jobs to begin with. This was after completing an NVQ in plumbing and a fair amount of friends and family experience.

Drip busters stated thatstarting on small jobs is a good way to start if experience is limited. I completley agree! The array of fittings and fixtures in a full bathroom is incredible today, some are complex to fit, and can cause all kinds of headaches if not fitted properly. Not only do you have to be a plumber these days, but a bit of a carpenter, plasterer, brickie etc. I work with a team of tradesmen to undertake tiling, electricals, plastering etc. I worry about firms that advertise all these services provided by one person.

Cashflow is God in this busibness as frequently you can find yourself laying out £100's or even £1000's if you have several jobs at once.

All of my business comes from referal which I find keeps me within a band of retired or semi retired people who tend to be a joy to work for and pay promtly. I do not advertise at all, but I have been lucky in this respect, and have a sales background to draw on, so can communicate wih people very well on the whole. ALWAYS CARRY YOUR BUSINESS CARDS WITH YOU. I also concour that leaflet drops are a waste of good trees! Got me one job in 3 years from when I very forst started.

Customer service is King, be there when you say, if you cant phone and keep your customer in the loop, and if you have made a mistake on a job, go back quickly to rectify it, people will respect that.

Sorry for the long post, but I hope it helps in some small way. If you want to know anything else, feel free to ask.

Regards

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